Podcast: Why Love (Not Fear) Should Guide Business: John Mackey on Conscious Capitalism

May 15, 2025

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Jeff sits down with Whole Foods co-founder John Mackey to explore his bold new venture, Love Life—a cutting-edge wellness center combining integrative medicine, longevity science, and healthy living. They discuss the tension between profit and purpose, what it takes to build (and let go of) a mission-driven company, and why love—not fear—should guide business and life.


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Hosted by Jeff Krasno, the Commune podcast features thoughtful conversations for modern times. Not always comfortable but definitely needed, we explore both humanity and our human-ness. How can we live healthy, purpose-filled lives and be in service of something bigger? Guests include spiritual teachers, poets, scientists, philosophers, and activists for food sustainability, functional medicine, mental and physical health, and collective healing.

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